Its the old Creator/creature vs. continuity of being thing. So many things we call biblical are just cultural. "There is something about walking through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus: You come out knowing Jesus," says Caine. Dont trust your heart, trust God. As I mentioned yesterday, pastoral ministry is not merely a building up, but also a tearing down. Love is the most powerful thing on earth, I dont know why you waste your time gossiping and making assumptions up about people But its not my place to worry about that. Pardon me, but I need to focus WAY more on that before someone else. It's taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. Published on 06 December 2016. The Holy Spirit is in all of us and Big enough to show you truth. I am sad to think that you guys would call yourselves Christians when you dont act like it. When you are calling names, questioning the faith of, or making assumptions about a person, you ARE making it personal. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. As I stated before, in the end, we will all be held accountable for our words, and if you feel great that the Lord will congratulate you on your posts, then AMEN! There is an honesty about Christine Caine that is rare in high-profile leaders. It wont be the one warning marker but the thousands of them which will label a false teacher like a bad review on Amazon.com. So many people I have not met Ms Caine in person to have a conversation with her, so I will not breach scripture and start publicly questioning her faith or berating her ministry without giving her a chance to answer any questions and concerns I may have. We all ask for the spirit of discernment & as we grow in spirit, will soon know who is who or the Holy Spirit reveals it to us without you being judgemental to a fellow human being. The weapon of the enemy are the wolves standing behind pulpits teaching lies and heresies to the sheep, who would rather follow them than Jesus Christ. Compassion overwhelmed me, and I knew why I was there. Those who persist in false teaching present grave spiritual danger and must be opposed. Communications advisor to the Export systems department. 2:6). The Lord convicted me about that through Ms Caines message, and I will forever be grateful to Him for the message and to her for being the vessel. I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. These are those that prexumed, who named Christ, who did miracles. I do question false teachers, theyre deceived. (Acts 8:17-20,Matthew 6:9, Isaiah 57:8, Revelation 9:21). To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. In numerous instances, the Bible commends believers to ostracize those who will not repent of their false teaching. The first three points more or less presuppose the context of a local congregation. If you mean warning of wolves behind pulpits, yes.Its called warning. As followers of Jesus in whom all things were made, we acknowledge the Darug people as the Traditional Custodians of the Country where our Station is located. God knows who the wolves are. We cant save anyone, we present the unadulterated Gospels, we present Jesus as the only way to The Father, the only way to salvation. But we are supposed to believe be brave enough to call it to their faces? If we would be faithful to Christ, we must be willing to impose the most extreme sanction that the church has to battle false teachers. When countless of videos, articles, books, and their own testimonies have proven and shown them to be the wolves that they are? Judge for yourself who to follow. Watch on. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. They teach women and if men listen to them so be it. Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. Deuteronomy 18: 10,11,12 There is no direct evidence that Lydia had once been a slave, but the fact that her name is her place of origin rather than a personal name suggests this as at least a possibility. I needed to feel this I had to walk through my own valley, but their path seemed so much harder and darker than mine," says Caine. How many are waiting for us to go to them while we wait for them to come to us? All rights reserved. Talking about them and their ministries behind their backs is NOT of Christ. Reading the context as to the time that Timothy was written, women then were NOT allowed to be nor were they educated and that is WHY they were not supposed to teach Gods word. They are the ones who voted for Obama and Hillary. Versus voting for Trump, who is on his THIRD wife and trying to read quotes from Two Corinthians? That is the only thing God really asks of us. I do NOT comment on hearsay. Galatians 1:8-9. Occult Sorcery You meaning taking the word for WHAT IT IS and SPEAKING AND FOLLOWING IT BY FAITH!!?? Im watching people deconstruct their faith, prominent leaders renouncing Jesus. Do you think theres a lack of urgency in Western Christianity, because were too comfortable? Thats the sign of a person whos self-promoting through public pugnacity. They are not the true church. Keep in scriptures, you might find better things to do than this. My friend Alan Hirsch says: We have to read Jesus meaning just come back to that central place. Oh, but in those same few years, I had attended plenty of Bible conferences and classes and had plenty to anonymously post about other people and their ministry on message boards! Personally, we see no reason at all for Priscillas name coming first in half of the Scripture references to her, even though she may recall the wonderful prominence of women in early Christianity, and in martyrdom and service for Christ., (MARIN) Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. When Christine was a youth pastor at the Hillsong Church, she attended a workshop on abuse to get ideas about how to help people. Satan seeks to corrupt Christs Church through false ministers who preach a false message. Local: 704-401-2432 As I have confessed elsewhere, I have been in this position before. LOL! . We must be careful not to imply through our associations affirmation of false teachers. Hagins principal disciple was Kenneth Copeland who, with his wife, Gloria, is the unofficial leader of the Word of Faith movement. 1 Corinthians 15:33, 2 Corinthians 6:14; Romans 16:17-18,Ephesians 5:11). And to whom am I calling anything behind their back? (Revelation 2:20). Using the bible as a standard? In doing so, you are also females teaching the word. 26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. God bless Christine Caine as well as Joyce Meyer and every Maria Magdalene out there! We asked him about this seemingly unique warning about Covid-19, and how he feels about being labelled both charismatic and progressive, The Bible teacher and founder of Living Proof Ministries speaks candidly about her knotted-up life, From living in open community with drug addicts to raising his family in a Cambodian slum, Craig Greenfield has spent decades living in some of the poorest places on earth. At 22, a friend took me to Hillsong Church in Sydney. Youre not speaking as a Christian should. When you're first abused, you're filled with shame about what is happening to you. Wow. #Past #Trials #Tests "Often the very things that you think have disqualified you are the ones that qualify you to do what God has . I imagine you would get a lot more done for the kingdom of you stopped pointing the finger at people and just started loving till it hurts. Christine shares how she struggled with what happened to her and how her faith helped her overcome the shame and worthlessness she felt for so many years. What Christ? God bless you. Believers, on the other hand, must continue abiding in the doctrine of Christ to have fellowship with the Father and the Son. Create Yours. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. Eventually people who are following God will see that. 1. We were diligent churchgoers, but it seemed to be more about our culture rather than a focus on a personal relationship with Jesus. You may see that as liberal-feminism or call me a heretic, but I see that as the Christ in me touching the heart of someone who had lost his way. When she first heard the diagnosis, Caine says her mind began to race "down the worst track like a runaway train, and I had to pull it back before it hit a wall and caused irreparable destruction." . I pray that you would humble yourself before the mighty hand of God.. These are the very people that turn people away from God with all their judging and misinterpretation of the bible. Ill call it straight to their face! Whether you point that out or not. Known for her ability to effectively communicate a message of hope, Christine has a heart for reaching the lost, strengthening leadership, and championing the cause of justice. He healed my body. You seem to have a very very real gripe with Ms Caine that I encourage you to take to her in person. I needed faith and friends surrounding me who were full of faith. Im only ever one thought away from thinking how I used to think, she said. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. Discernment Please show proof. It comes across as VERY condescending, haughty, and insulting, as if you are laughing at someone who is too stupid to go elsewhere. Evangelist Christine Caines 60-Second Testimony. Gods will is very plainly stated in scripture. ~ Christine Caine. Wow, look at all the responses against this, we need to follow what the scriptures say not twist them around, Thank you for the warning, I was caught up in these heretical teachers and I am so happy God gave me discernment and showed me that these people are not teaching but misleading thousands straight to hell. Just like peter you dont know what spirit you are speaking from. If you cant see how presumptuous that is, well Youre assuming without knowing me, how do you know i would throw anyone in hell? WAKE UP PEOPLE, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, Mary, the disciples, the saints are examples for us to live by, HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT TO WORSHIP FALSE IDOLS OR PLACE ANYONE ABOVE HIM. 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But I will stand by comments regarding Caine, Meyer and all those that are still playing on peoples emotions while passing off a diluted version of scripture, once again if Ive offended anyone it was not intentional. They are the ones who voted for Obama and Hillary. Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, preaching at Perry Nobles church, Robert Morris church and conferences, Rick Warrens church, and Steven Furticks church and conferences. The baskets kept filling up no matter how much food they distributed. #JoyceMeyer#EnjoyingEverydayLife#ChristineCaine (2 Peter 3:16). A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. It is not for me to judge you but maybe you should learn to shut your mouth. Or, as SBTS President Dr Al Mohler put it, a prosperity movement for millennialsthat minimizes the Gospel content and diffuses a presentation of spirituality instead. Anti-trafficking work, church planting, womens networks, speaking, writing is there any part of life that you dont want to tackle? Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. It was unarguably one of the "busiest and biggest seasons" of her life but Caine notes that she held on to faith during the entire process because she had no other resource. Life and death is in the power of the tongue.nothing wrong with positive prayers and claiming blessings over our children. Christine Caine: Fix Your Eyes on Jesus For the New Year, Christine Caine shares a word of encouragement to help you grow in your faith. Presumably, Apollos responded favorably to their correction such that Paul would later identify Apollos as a co-laborer in preaching the gospel (1 Cor. If needing to a second time, warn them lovingly again, seasoning your speech with salt. Or is there a more biblically formed motive for the controversy? Follow Christine on Twitter @ChristineCaine. A pastor cant be the kind of guy who cant accept an apology or recognize repentance when he sees it. So that is why Im not all up in what other people are saying about the Bible all the time. You mean judgemental? . Heres what she discovered, Three years before the pandemic struck, Greg Boyd received an unusual prophetic word, which prompted him to move his churchs material online. Numerous private jets. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. We think discipleship is: Im going to be a better version of me, Gods going to give me whatever I want, Im going to live my best life now. International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. From Abused To Unashamed: Christine Caine's Story. It appears to me that this would pretty much demand absolute avoidance. Download free, high-quality (4K) pictures and wallpapers featuring Christine Caine Quotes. I hope you take time to listen to it because Christine's message is powerful and relevant to so many areas of our lives. All thats done here is to warn people!E of false teachers, false theology and false biblical practices, how is that in anyway being Pharisee? Oh, absolutely. 12 How think ye? Just like any Christian today, either male or female. What do you spend most of your time worrying about?. I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. We need to be careful not to underestimate how important our response to correction is. Its a Hollywood script! Amo a Joyce, amo a Christine, a Beth ??? There are soooo many books that have women leaders in them. I site that purposes to tear down people that are of the faith. Toll Free: 1-877-247-2426. The pain of recovery is great. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 24 And the Lords bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will (2 Timothy 2:24-26). I watched T.D. A lot of my adult life has been a journey of learning to trust him. Shes as passionate about seeing souls saved as she is about social justice Im like an old-school revivalist! she tells me. Evangelist Christine Caine's 60-Second Testimony. It involves tearing down every speculation and lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God (2 Corinthians 10:5). Praise Jesus'. Also, I was the victim of sexual abuse for many years. Finding your way back to God when everything is pulling you away(Nelson). Additionally, Christine has close relationships with Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer, frequently sharing the stage or partnering with both. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life. I am willing to bet you do NOT personally know the people you talk about on this site. The author of seven books, her latest release is Unexpected: Leave Fear Behind, Move Forward in Faith, Embrace the Adventure. I will NOT throw out that message.. Put out your little warning marker if you need to when you find someone is acting falsely. As a young woman, I was making a lot of poor choices. . I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. [1] Lydia of Thyatira is most known as a seller or merchant of purple cloth, which is the likely reason for the Catholic Church naming her patroness of dyers. It is unclear as to if Lydia simply dealt in the trade of purple dye or whether her business included textiles as well, many historians and theologians to believe that she was a merchant of specifically purple cloth.. I do NOT comment on hearsay, other peoples experiences, other peoples commentary or who heard about who said what to who when. Such a person is not to be given religious recognition of any kind, because to do so would mean that the believers would then share in his evil deeds. Marrying and having babies was supposed to be my highest aspiration in life. Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters.. I can understand why so many people hate Christians. I can assure you, you wont. We cannot throw the baby out with the bath water, the fish out with the bones. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. The act of circle marking is occult in nature period. Theres a great difference between having a healthy conscience, and shame, says Christine. The best of Christine Caine Quotes, as voted by Quotefancy readers. My heart is broken and we need to pray fervently for them to open their eyes. I am hard pressed to think of a single Christian speaker or author who I agree with 100% of the time (based on my understanding of scripture), but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save? I have also lost friends to cults due to their lack of knowledge of the scriptures for themselves, and it breaks my heart every day. I believe he is coming back. I read the title and I thought WHAT! My whole goal is to say that Jesus put shame to shame on the cross. I was born in Sydney, Australia. Somehow I doubt theres much of that going on. People who post here are haters and not lovers of Christ! I just wrapped up finals in Folk Religion & Animism at a fully accredited Christian university. Anyone who goes beyond and will not continue abiding in the biblical doctrine of Christ has abandoned God. I started volunteering to clean up the youth hall. How many people has the author of this article rescued from slavery? Christines book Unashamed is the third in a series including Undaunted and Unstoppable. 03422292). We went to church and developed our faith based on our trust in God, which often meant trusting people who failed us. She is a product of, has held leadership positions at, and is closely affiliated with Hillsong, which is, undeniably, a Word of Faith church. Christine is a regular contributor to the Hillsong blog page, the Hillsong web site maintains a bio page on her, and she is a regularly featured speaker at Hillsongs Colour Conference for women and other Hillsong events. (Romans 16:17-18) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Recalcitrance in the face of correction is dangerous, and it is why the apostles would often apply some of the most bone-chilling descriptors to unrepentant false teachers. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. They make themselves rich by promising you the same. Why arent you obeying Matthew 18 and seeking ways to reach out to these people yourself? You will have to stand before God in all things that you have said including the ways you are talking about Gods people here. And I have never heard them condemn anyones teaching like they are being condemned here. I dont recall anyone telling you to shut up and do as Im told, you my friend have a chip on your shoulder, and are having a hard time distinguishing between false gospel, womens rights, and your perceive notion of what is biblical and what isnt. Youre making this a personal issue, when its not. Published in Testimony. Really, you need to figure that out from false teachers? Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? what does cardiac silhouette is unremarkable mean / fresh sage cologne slopes of southern italy / why did curtis jones resign from bayou city fellowship is one of many scriptures that come to mind, I love that you are always willing to name names, as we are required to do in Romans 16:17. Not every purveyor of false teaching is a lackey of the Devil. I dont share my faith enough (which is what Christine called outand evangelism IS BIBLICAL so Im thankful for it), and I have areas where I can demonstrate delayed or even a lack of obedience. Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed. A21, the anti-trafficking organisation that she and her husband founded, has seen more women rescued and more traffickers prosecuted during Covid-19 than at any point in its history. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. 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