Rachel Maddow: -- in part because he thinks that hes that. Like the people who are listening are like, "Wait, who's the senator?". Rachel Maddow: -- your story and learn it. We are in utterly uncharted territory." Ai. . They have their first daughter named Ryan Elizabeth Shaw-Hayes born in November 2011. Chris Hayes: Well, so let's talk about before we get to the podcast --. On Tuesday, Hayes posted a photo of himself with Rachel Maddow on his Twitter account. And I ended up in the weird part of American Republican Party politics where they were against the Nuremberg trials. Maddow seeks to explain our complex world and deliver news in a way that's illuminating and dynamic, connecting the dots to make sense of complex issues. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. We have all this stuff. Rachel Maddow: Yeah, yeah, and then he got a five-year prison sentence. Chris Hayes: -- because its like at some level the comforting story to tell ourselves is that Coughlin is the kind of key instrument or whoever today. When youre not on the confines of, like, well, were liberal democracy and what should the tax rate be, but rather how should we order all of society, fascist, communist, liberal democracy, people take this very interesting --, Chris Hayes: -- ideological journeys, I mean --. Rachel Maddow: His reach in terms of his market penetration and his radicalism cannot be overstated. Chris Hayes is . Rachel Maddow: -- for a lot of the time that he was arguing this. But I find it really interesting, so you're along for the ride. Were going to fight them by trying to get our churches to be more active on this, and trying to get the police to be more aware of what were doing, and to try to get neighborhood organizations that are both aware of this and organizing against it. I mean, this is --, Chris Hayes: -- stuff that is top of mind at the time, big news --. And like, you get figures like this sometimes, right? Earlier in his program, Hayes recounted an. And in some cases, they were actively supported by the Hitler government as an effort to create a fifth column here that was going to soften us up for a fascist takeover or to have a native takeover here in the United States that would bring in an administration or a form of government that would be more in keeping and more friendly toward Hitlers aims. Can you imagine if former President Donald Trump said this? Chris Hayes: Howard Stern, yeah. You can see more of our work, including links to things we mentioned here, by going to nbcnews.com/whyisthishappening.Stream the video version of this conversation on Peacock here. Also, the pamphlet behind me, which indeed have a swastika on it, is an incredible anti-fascist pamphlet put together by an American christian minister to counter the work of the Christian Front fascist gang, he tweeted. But no sooner did they move to New York City. He goes to Germany. Rachel Maddow joins Chris Hayes to talk about her new podcast, how we can use history to make sense of current events, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment. So when Doni, our producer who's here, you guys are very closely held with the details of this, which made sense. Luckily for us, her decision to dial back from the nightly cable news grind has allowed her to create a work in new media. Chris Hayes: Pearl Harbor happens, the war happens. Chris Hayes: He really does, one of the genuine talents he has is sort of terrible in everything else. You can get the first two episodes now wherever you get your podcasts. The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. "The Rachel Maddow Show" generates nearly 1 million viewers more than bookend programs hosted by Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell. Rachel Maddow: And I'm really grateful. It's like, you could leave the job but, like, the you follows you. I mean, the siege of Stalingrad, one of the most brutal, bloody things ever to happen in human war-making --, Chris Hayes: -- you know, they don't talk about the Hitler-Stalin Pact beforehand --. And the Justice Department, I think, was onto something in terms of the way those things were connected. No one knows or even cares if Biden's story is true. I can keep doing what I'm doing. Rachel Maddow: And if we can't be real and, like, sort of justly calibrated in terms of thinking about American fascism, and American authoritarianism, and indeed American support for Hitler in the leadup to Pearl Harbor, then I think we can't be real and clearsighted about the persistence of those movements over time as the generations have gone on. Those poor defendants were not convicted. Is that a story about American fascism? As noted by conservative commentator Todd Starnes, Hayes in the past had linked Trump supporters to the swastika. The subject of the. I would say that theres a recognizably fascist cadence, like theres a certain tenor and cadence and rhythm --, Chris Hayes: -- to fascist incitement and then --. Rachel Maddow: Yes, and that's got a whole lot of technical elements to it, like, dont --, Rachel Maddow: -- dont use too many proper nouns that are --, Chris Hayes: -- magicians trick, it really is, like --, Rachel Maddow: -- but you know how to do it. That deal will give Maddow, the highest-rated host on MSNBC, a jaw-dropping $30 million per year to keep her with the company through the 2024 election, according to four people familiar with the matter. 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So having her name --. And now I'm done. The historical, narrative style pod could hardly be more relevant, as the plot revolves around a sedition trial quite similar to the ongoing Oath Keepers one. Not to be weird but, like, I'm very grateful to the executives at the company who said I could do this, because it means that I don't have to quit doing what I'm doing. And the Justice Department was like, "We should do something about this. Last night, both Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow interviewed activists drawn to D.C. this week to advocate for gun control because they have personal experience with mass-shootings. Rachel Maddow: It is great. Rachel Maddow: -- and you were working this hard. and. The 8 p.m. MSNBC show hosted by Chris Hayes averaged a 1.4 rating in June, down slightly from a 1.5 in May. Rachel Maddow: Chris, it's very nice. Point is, Babe Ruth was sort of just doing something different than every other baseball player was doing. Fritz Kuhn is the head of the German American Bund, and he does get locked up as the U.S. is heading toward war in World War II. So, but that gets only (ph) --. Dog whistle, much? Doni Holloway: It was about events of historical significance compared to today. We put it off a million times for COVID, and then we finally did it. Chris Hayes, Washington editor for the Nation, is sitting in for Rachel Maddow tonight. Thats like hes a multiple of the Super Bowl every week in terms of --. Rachel Maddow: What did he tell you? Chris Hayes: You have this detail about he reprints -- Goebbels --. And I've got this good mix of things now instead of just having a supersized serving of one thing that is too much for me to handle. They go absolutely crazy against the justice department, threaten the justice department, go to the attorney-general, tell him that you fired these prosecutors get rid of this thing, and they do. Now, this is basically the standard for American League home run leaders for like the entirety of the first 20 years of the 20th century. And some of them, yes, were prosecutors and people working inside the criminal justice system, but some of them were crusading columnists. Rachel Maddow: Theres a great book called "Nazis of Copley Square" written by Charles Gallagher, whos a Jesuit priest who teaches at Boston College. Chris Hayes: I don't know whose secretary is. I'm not spoiling it. And the great sedition trial in the end doesnt work for all sorts of amazing reasons, and he ends his career at the Justice Department. Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 5, 2022 "Just so incredibly perfect that I have a typo in this tweet. I feel like this idea that we're dealing with pro-authoritarian impulses on the right as connected to electoral politics, that being some sort of unprecedented challenge, it doesn't feel unprecedented to me. And some are doing extremely well, like at an incredibly high level, playing Major League Baseball. So Charles Coughlin, I think everybodys heard of him. The three hosts Joy Reid, Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow have led. The 11th Hour with Stephanie . I would know if that happened, like someone's miscommunicating to me what the topic of this is because, if that had happened, I would know, but it turns out it did happen, I didn't know about it. Chris Hayes: -- its a very good compelling story. By James Crowley On 11/20/20 at 11:13 AM EST. And I was like, I feel like I would know if that happened. Thanks for being so kind. Chris Hayes: Wait, what's the story? As of 2021, Chris Hayes has a net worth of $5 million. So there's a new podcast out. Chris Hayes: Do you think we have the right antibodies now? Like, please, because thats like --. And then fast-forward from the Christian Front trial in 1940 to 1944, 1944 when the great sedition trial finally gets going, and this is in later episodes of the podcast, theres so many powerful members of Congress and members of the Senate who are implicated in this plot and in this investigation that has led to this trial, that they come in and, you know, witch hunt, hoax. Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw, a professor of law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. Rachel Maddow: -- like, that night, and was coming back. And they're right, like, they earned it. And the Hitler government simultaneously supporting both native fascist and German fascist movements in this country that were plotting a violent overthrow of the U.S. Government. You can also watch "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Monday nights. I haven't figured out how to work less, but I am working in a different way and I'm doing different things, and that is valuable. Rachel Maddow: Let's take it beyond Ernest Lundeen. Chris Hayes: I told her she's going to hate that (ph), but it is true. I mean, they were in control but also profoundly corrupt. They were good at hitting, they were good at getting doubles and triples and all this stuff. Theres a role for journalism, there is a role for activism. Chris Hayes: -- senator from Minnesota. In addition to Maddow, Brian Williams is talking about leaving his program "The 11th Hour" when his contract expires in the next six months, according to sources who say he wants to end the late-night gig. The presence of a hate symbol in a picture of two liberals mugging for the camera was too much to ignore. Maddow also conducts interviews with. So --. A new biography about the Duke of Sussex alleges that Prince Harry was not always the ardent proponent of "woke" dogma he is today. MSNBC pundit Rachel Maddow recently announced that her partner Susan Mikula tested positive for COVID-19 . We are committed to truth and accuracy in all of our journalism. And that was part of what was hard about drafting the podcast because you could do the whole thing on Coughlin and the Christian Front, right? They wrote their own books about it. But I do think that the power that he has over his listeners and the power he has to influence events makes him fall in love with the idea of the strong man as the savior --. And it was front-page news, and it was a huge deal. And I also was like, I guess, I just never heard of the senator. I'm in Rachel's head, and I'm in her world." Do you buy the explanation of the presence of the swastika on the desk? But I have to ask. And I want them to tell that story. That --, Rachel Maddow: -- like, technical suspense? Chris Hayes: How did you find your way to the story? It was stopped when the FBI arrested these perpetrators on January 17th, right. I mean, yeah, weve got really radical right-wing media, but we dont have anything like that. That was 1940, and then by 1941, we were in World War II, and we moved on. In her past career, Shaw clerked in the Supreme Court for. And I was like were on the Huey Long Bridge, lets play some Huey Long. Offsite Link by Anonymous reply 24 May 21, 2020 12:04 AM They are best friends. The historical, narrative style pod could hardly be more relevant, as the plot revolves around a sedition trial quite similar to the ongoing Oath Keepers one. Chris Hayes: We should talk about, since its mentioned, the title is "The Christian Front: Coughlins Storm Troopers," and maybe we should talk a little bit of Coughlin because he is a key figure. ", Rich Polk / Getty Images for Politicon; Scott Olson / Getty Images. Rachel Maddow: Thanks for being so nice. But they expected to go forward with this armed effort to stop the transfer of power in the United States. When Alex Wagner debuts her new MSNBC show on Tuesday, she will be taking on an unusual arrangement . Rachel Maddow: And its like, you know what, Francis Sweeney, you know, I dont know if there ought to be a statue to you, but I definitely want to read a lot more about you and know --. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. He gets fired by going rogue and saying, "We didnt get a conviction, but Im going to tell you what our evidence was. That's kind of funny just because she was doing that. Rachel Maddow: I mean, I think I learned what I like, which is helpful. Chris Hayes got his start on television as a guest host for. Rachel Maddow: I was going to say, we're going to get a call from Mr. Stern, yeah. "The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell" and "All In With Chris Hayes" were 37th and 38th, respectively. In this case, this pamphlet is about the Bronx. pic.twitter.com/h6uNdmCT2q, Aldous Huxleys Ghost (@AF632) October 5, 2022, TexZeus (@vinnieoftexas_) October 4, 2022. Why is he so upset? Rachel Maddow: Tom Barrack, literally on trial right now --. Harriet Johnson, I only took out in the draft before you got that rough cut, so --, Chris Hayes: Right, because you didn't want to give me two names that I had to manage --. Rachel Maddow: -- 10 years he was chancellor. I mean, obviously it's your voice, and you have a very good voice technically, but a Rachel Maddow way of telling a story that happens in this podcast where it's like, "I'm in it. I love that scientific part of it. It is everything that I would have wanted. So all that said, it is a great pleasure to have the one and only Rachel Maddow. One of her new projects is Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra, a podcast all about the history of pre-World War II American fascism, and those who worked to stop it. On Tuesday, Hayes posted a photo of himself with Rachel Maddow on his Twitter account. You know, are you the bishop who asked to decide what to do about Coughlin? MSNBC's Alex Wagner reminisces with childhood friend Chris Hayes during the premiere of "Alex Wagner Tonight" Tuesday. You take the base average the number of viewers who tune in at a specific time slot, no matter the host then measure whether a particular host raises, drops or maintains that average.. For example, The Rachel Maddow Show averaged 2.6 million in 2021 at 9 pm. Right --. Chris Hayes: More of our conversation after this quick break. Justice Department caves, fires the prosecutor. Like, oh, dont worry too much about what youre hearing about the supposed Jews being supposedly persecuted. Rachel Maddow: I love that, but it takes a lot of work. He is also the host of the Up with Chris Hayes show which airs on weekends. The Chris Hayes Podcast" to discuss what she's been up to since dialing back from her nightly cable news show, how she found the story that's told in her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," the editorial and creative process that has followed, and more. There were 130 million Americans in terms of our population at the time, 30 million of them every week were listening to him. Chris Hayes: And they like to hear fascist rhetoric. I was really interested in some of the sort of deep, radical right, ultra-right stuff that was happening in the country in the post-World War II era leading into the Reagan era. Rachel Maddow: -- you are smart, and you can travel this path with me, but we will both start with this first step. Rachel Maddow: Its about there being a bad guy, that bad guy not being you --. Rachel Maddow: Rachel wrote a fiction podcast? You're killing me. Like, you're getting the name of the senator. Chris Hayes: -- its wild that this happens, that this level of sort of fame and stardom and influence happens within the hierarchy of the Catholic clergy where he just literally just a literal random parish priest. Rachel Maddow: Theres no such thing as todays Father Coughlin. MSNBC president Phil Griffin probably thought two Rachel Maddows would be better than one, but Hayes as lost 30% of Schultz's viewers and as Maddow's lead-in, her ratings are suffering as a result: Even Ms. Maddow's ratings tumbled sharply in May, at least partly because the network's new host at 8 p.m., Chris Hayes, has lost more than . Rachel Maddow: This is a booklet about the Christian Front. Politico obtained a purported majority opinion draft of the Supreme Court showing that the court is poised to overturn the 1973 landmark decision Roe v. Wade which legalizes abortions in all states up to the point of fetal viability24-28 weeks gestation. He interviews guys on the Nazi side of the plot to say, in fact, were you working with these Americans and gets them on the record from their cells at Nuremberg saying yeah, these were the Americans who we are working with. Chris Hayes: With an actual, like, handler, like a Nazi handler --. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Rachel Maddow, MSNBC's biggest star, has mentored Hayes, her lead-in at 9 p.m., throughout his time at the network. Justice Department can only speak through its actions in court. Chris Hayes: Yes, but the opening scene of this podcast, you're just, like, I don't know who this guy is. "Rachel Maddow, you've got some explaining to do," Ball said, but Maddow hasn't stopped anti-Trump speculation. Obviously, in a big country, people have all sorts of views, right --. Chris Hayes: -- or it falls apart if you're doing something in 15 minutes or 14 minutes. You're so good at suspense, so good. It's like a physics bridge with the toothpicks and the weight, like, it better be pretty structurally tight --. Chris Hayes: And you basically got to just constantly work at it, which I think is both more realistic and not the story were told, but is very much illustrated by the story you are telling. And then, you know, it's one of these things where the story you end up learning, even at a relatively high level of sophistication in American history, is like, what comes out the other end, which is that we liberate --. August 14, 2022 12:13pm. This was 1939. Twitter users who were interested in inspecting the books that formed the backdrop to the photo noticed that when they magnified the picture, a document with a swastika on its cover was visible near Hayess right hip. Chris Hayes: -- by Reverend Alson J. Smith --. Chris Hayes: -- like, how is the new life of one night a week of "The Rachel Maddow Show"? Listen to Rachel Maddow talk about her new podcast, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment, how we can use history to make sense of . I think that our professional and civic and religious institutions can be strong but can also be heard. And the justice department in the wake of Longs assassination sent a prosecutor down to Louisiana basically to go bust up Hue Long machine to root out not only his vestiges of dictatorial power, but also bust all the corruption that he had left behind, which was profound. What is the salary of Rachel Maddow? Court actions do not work against this seditious plot involving members of Congress in the Hitler government. Rachel Maddow: -- matters, when having the secretary's name doesn't matter. The correspondent was not fired. I mean, theres a couple of things here. And I want to learn your sort of lessons about how to live in the face of these kinds of threats. Why Is This Happening? is presented by MSNBC and NBC News, produced by Doni Holloway and Brendan O'Melia, engineered by Bob Mallory, features music by Eddie Cooper. The accompanying text read:. And, to me, when I started to understand the story, that's when I felt like, "Oh, I need to make it right away.". I think there needs to be a bigger, broader, anti-fascist movement where people actually have work to do every day in trying to fight fascism and save the country, she urged. One of the defendants wrote a book about it. It can be stopped now before it acquires the prestige of success. Huey Long, of course, was assassinated, which is what put an end to his political career. Chris Hayes: The podcast is called "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra." According to the Daily Beast, Maddow's new contract would allow her more. Chris Hayes: But when youre dealing with something this existential and this core to both the life blood of what liberal democracy is that that system may not be that well-equipped to do it. Rachel Maddow: Oh, the full pamphlet. Rachel Maddow: -- nodding along. Like, over the generations actually, the people who are the worst actors in this ultra-right sphere of American politics are thieves. Chris Hayes: -- ballpark, what is this? Chris Hayes: Right, right. In an interview with MSNBC colleague Rachel Maddow, Hayes said that people are increasingly realizing that January 6th, 2021 was actually a "very big thing." "It's just really hard to convict. Signers responded to outreach from three organizations--Just Foreign Policy, RootsAction.org (which I coordinate), and World Beyond War--calling for concerned individuals to "urge Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, and MSNBC to correct their failure to report on the humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen and the direct U.S. military role in causing the . Prosecution does not work and that prosecutor, having been through all those different of the ringer ends up breaking all the rules. I was burning myself out physically and mentally in a way that meant that I was not going to be able to keep doing this for very long. Its really --. He gets on the air in the United States just after Kristallnacht, and basically says, yeah, the Jews had it coming. This guy, Babe Ruth, comes along, starts out as a pitcher, goes over to hitting. I feel done. January 17th is when they got arrested. But the effort to force a resolution to it through the criminal law and through the courts didn't work. As Hayes wrapped up his 8:00 p.m. show, he passed the baton to his 9:00 p.m. successor, who then immediately alluded to an earlier conversation the pair had earlier in the day. Chris Hayes: It's fascinating, theres clips of Coughlin in the show. MSNBC's Chris Hayes Posts Photo with Rachel Maddow, Then Users Notice Symbol Next to Them By Jack Davis October 6, 2022 at 8:34am The presence of a swastika in the background of a photo posted by MSNBC host Chris Hayes gave Twitter a chortle this week. Completing this poll entitles you to The Western Journal news updates free of charge. Rachel Maddow: You would not be on trial. There are parts about fascist rhetoric that are compelling in their own twisted terrible way. And the Justice Department, youre the Justice Department, you cant do that. Rachel Maddow: -- sort of a bit player in this story and theyre actually supported by the Hitler government. So I hadn't gotten the actual cuts of the first two episodes. Tweet us with the hashtag #WITHpod, email WITHpod@gmail.com. 9PM-112122. Multiple outlets have reported over the last few weeks that Chris Hayes is going to be canceled, but the story has taken a new turn with sources inside MSNBC saying that Rachel Maddow will be . You know, and so were like Im playing YouTube clips of Huey Long speeches. with me, your host, Chris Hayes. You can help a great deal by, A, keeping us, this anti-fascist organization, advised of incidents, i.e., stabbings, beatings, et cetera, that may happen in your neighborhood. Chris Hayes: And then what you uncover is that, like, prior to Pearl Harbor, there was a huge amount of Nazi sympathy in the United States. Like, wait a second, how does this happen? And so you're focused on that name. So Susan's annoyed because I'm not working any less. It ends up being very handy. Luckily for us, her decision to dial back from the nightly cable news grind has allowed her to create a work in new media. They've arrested these guys and put them on trial for sedition because they were stockpiling bombs and working with stolen military heavy machine guns, and they had a plot to simultaneously assassinate 12 members of Congress and violently attack armories and U.S. government outposts and take over the U.S. government, 80 years to the day from the Christian Front to the Oath Keepers sedition arrest. Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 5, 2022. Chris Hayes: -- 54 in 1920, 59 and then famously 60 in 1927. Doni, do you remember what you told him? I just think we need some energy in it. And his training is all in the clan, right. That's actually a great primary source for this work because he reproduces all of the statements from the trial, that are hard to get from the multi-thousand-page transcript of the trial now, simply because he wants to rebut them in his book. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. Then they planned a second attack. I'm getting weirdly teary. I'm not pulling this from memory. 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